![]() ![]() Alive rinnegan madara is physically above any incarnation of himself before, He has an extra technique, and he literally has hashiramas sage mode lol. Yes its different, it's yin-yang release, Even disregarding limbo, theres nothing to suggest hashirama would win if he literally stalemated a weaker version of madara. This would be the case even with Saitama, he would not be able to physically defeat limbo because the shadow ignores his physics. So if he has both that and sage mode I see no reason why he wouldn’t hit Limbo. Heres how limbo works, Sasuke didnt have rikudo senjutsu, and limbo ignores opponents if they dont have that chakra, so Sasuke cant resist its ignoring properties and so it paralyzes him on contact with limbo. Not using this in the debate but I bet you miracle wood style would still be able to harm them since it’s a power linked directly with the Ten Tails and chakra, like the Sage of Six Paths. Limbo: We don't see him using them until he already has the Rinnegan, and unlike Sasuke he managed to awaken it by himself in both eyes, it is possible that he gained the MS and started pushing Hashirama, Hashirama learned SM to detect the limbo clones, and Madara in the war only chooses to cast them through the Rinnegan because it makes them. His Limbo got stalemated by 4 shadow clones from SO6P Naruto and Remember that Madaras Limbo are equal to the real body in power. What makes it so different, Madara’s rinnegan has nothing to do with six paths as well, he unlocked that on his own? Is Sixs Path’s sage mode supposed to be different from regular sage mode? They are both still nature energy and all it struck me as was just him giving them an immense power boost not some different un matchable new chakra type that limbo is only vulnerable to specifically. He can produce one Limbo clone with a single Rinnegan, but he can generate four now that he possesses two Rinnegan. Consequently, Madara can quadruple the number of Limbo clones he can create. He tied with hashirama as an edo, and now he has an alive rinnegan + hashiramas own sage mode + he's physically stronger Madara capitalizes on the opportunity to steal Obitos Rinnegan because Sakura could not destroy it quickly enough. ![]() You cant sense them with just sage mode, you need six paths chakra, or rinnegan. Limbo does not have to be physically stronger than whatevers attacking it because whatevers attacking it just wont affect it if not imbued with Six Paths chakra. I guarantee his wood style would be another counter for limbo if they ever did go toe to toe since its a miracle jutsu and he is made up of 100% Hashirama cells □ Lmao are you serious? Hashirama has sage mode he could sense them. They exist on a different plane of reality. What about Limbo clones? Hashirama has no answer for phantoms he can neither see, hear, sense, nor interact with. ![]()
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